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  The Truth Changes: Watchtower of July 15, 2013

  by Doug Mason in

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  Julia Orwell

  Great work! It's so refreshing, after years of pseudo-academia vomited out by the WT, to see really well structured and properly referenced analyses.
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  Another elder came and told me I'm not an apostate and no-one can judge me.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  2. friends

  i'll call him bear, like teddy bear because he's big and nice.

  bear's the coboe, an intelligent but jittery man who suffers from a host of anxiety disorders.

  he 'just happened' to be driving down my street after the group, and 'just happened' to notice i was at home, tending to some animals.

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  Julia Orwell

  Lol I told him, when he brought up the a word that I was baptized Anglican and became Jw so technically I am an apostate from the Anglicans! I certainly didn't take any of his bait, and steered right away from doctrine or controversy. Everyone, including Bear, thinks I've gone inactive because of the way Snake the elder treated me. I let that illusion continue.

  BTW what does it mean in elder/man speak that he's available any time? He's not attracted to me if that's what you mean. I'm married and so is he. He thinks he's saving me? Get me to incriminate?

  And thanks Arboles for your nice comment :)
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  My experience today

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  discussion with wife today led to her questioning whether i believe or not.

  i told her that i just can't roll over and accept everything new thing they say just like that.

  we were, of course, talking about the "new light".

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  I feel for ya. Don't be too quick to assail the wt or she'll go into defense mode. Maybe get her to read some books on north Korea or casually tell her some parallel facts about other religions as stated on Jwfacts.

  I think it's great you could have this conversation. Continue to show love- the wt love bombs you when you join and it's a tried and true method. Love bombing your wife will show her you're not turning evil.
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  Another elder came and told me I'm not an apostate and no-one can judge me.

  by Julia Orwell in

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  i'll call him bear, like teddy bear because he's big and nice.

  bear's the coboe, an intelligent but jittery man who suffers from a host of anxiety disorders.

  he 'just happened' to be driving down my street after the group, and 'just happened' to notice i was at home, tending to some animals.

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  I didn't bring up any issues with him though he continually stressed he was available to discuss them any time I wanted. I'm not sure how much I can trust him- I trust his authentic self but not his cult self. Interestingly, he said my friends at the hall miss me. I wonder why they don't tell me that themselves? I wonder why the elders are the only ones to call or stop by?
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  Family Budgeting

  by skeeter1 in

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  how do you budget?.

  as a jw, we never had "classes" on family budgeting.

  the world was going to end, so who cared about paying off credit card bills, retirement savings, etc.

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  Julia Orwell

  No, being a JW taught me not to subscribe to the consumerist lifestyle and actually helped me keep things simple in a material sense, figuring out what really was needed, and what was wants. I find many JWs are keen budgeters, because 1- the WT is always telling them to eschew materialism, and 2- they generally were low income earners so budgeting over the years became an absolute necessity. I must say, a non- materialist locus was one of the good things they gave me.
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  I think those still in should mess with R@F with the hand of Jehovah stuff.

  by Defianttruth in

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  "i ate a ton of cheese at lunch today, but still had an easy bm around 5:00. must be jehovah's hand.".

  "the whole world is persecuting my religion yet i was able to drive to the meeting today and no one tried to kill me.

  must be jehovah's hand.

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  Julia Orwell

  Love it! Gonna use a little of it myself.
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  Another elder came and told me I'm not an apostate and no-one can judge me.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'll call him bear, like teddy bear because he's big and nice.

  bear's the coboe, an intelligent but jittery man who suffers from a host of anxiety disorders.

  he 'just happened' to be driving down my street after the group, and 'just happened' to notice i was at home, tending to some animals.

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  Julia Orwell

  He's a sincere man if that's what you mean. I'm not up to trusting him though, not unless he embraces TTATT...
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  Another elder came and told me I'm not an apostate and no-one can judge me.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'll call him bear, like teddy bear because he's big and nice.

  bear's the coboe, an intelligent but jittery man who suffers from a host of anxiety disorders.

  he 'just happened' to be driving down my street after the group, and 'just happened' to notice i was at home, tending to some animals.

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  I'll call him Bear, like teddy bear because he's big and nice. Bear's the COBOE, an intelligent but jittery man who suffers from a host of anxiety disorders. He 'just happened' to be driving down my street after the group, and 'just happened' to notice I was at home, tending to some animals.

  We made small talk about my pets, and then he told me he'd come because he was concerned about me and wanted to help me. He asked if he could do something for me to help me, and I said I just needed a friend. He said he was my friend and understood me a lot better than others because he too suffers from anxiety. So we chatted a bit, and he brought up the various issues, namely the Facebook one and my being inactive. I told him I appreciated his concern, and was on sabbatical and would return to the KH when I was ready.

  What was really telling though, was how he described most JWs. He described them as being incredibly narrow-minded, and hence they think I'm an apostate because I have different opinions on things. Bear told me he certainly didn't think I was an apostate. Even the elders are narrow minded, he told me.

  When he mentioned the GB, I said nothing and gave no opinion. Bear told me I could only work things out for myself, irrespective of what the Org says, and that the Org supplies a way for people to approach Jehovah, but there may be other organisations too. He'd met many spiritual people in his ministry, who had organisations in which they could worship Jehovah. Bear also told me a lot about how the Org has disappointed him over the years, and no one had the right to judge me.

  Mind you, here we are standing amidst my animals, feeding them! He finished by reassuring me of his friendship and care, and if any elder ticked me off, to let him know about it.

  Could Bear have potential to wake up? People are waking up in droves, elders too.
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  My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"

  by ÁrbolesdeArabia in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.

  i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.

  i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.

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  Julia Orwell

  I feel for you! I've been avoiding the elders, and when o do get caught by surprise I am friendly but deliberately evasive. Who are they to tell you you're gonna die at A? Only Jehovah can make that call so maybe refer them to Matt 7:1.

  Or just don't engage with them. You don't owe them an explanation; and getting dfd will cut you off before you can help others. Be relieved that God isn't gonna kill all those people you see walking down the street, in shops, kids in schools etc.

  It's hard to keep quiet though, because you burn with your new knowledge, and are angry you've been had for so long. Maybe vent it by writing an imaginary letter to the gb!
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  BBC Documentary on North Korea - "Its like being inside a doomsday cult"

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  bbc panorama has just broadcast an undercover documentary on north korea.

  john sweeney - who previously went postal on scientologist tommy davis - joined a group from the london school of economics to secretly film inside the country.. the film showed hospitals with no patients, farms with no fields or animals and factories with modern looking equipment sitting idle.

  the electricity works sporadically.

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  Julia Orwell

  Oh and if anyone knows how people outside the UK can see it, please let me know! I yearn to see it.